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Last time we met (at a gig I think) he was living in Girvan.
Those wimin were in the nip.
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Hello!
I came across this forum looking for information on local bomb shelters and you have all helped me understand and picture all the stories my (now passed) grandparents previously told me.

(- Martha Price (Kirkwood) & Peter Price -)

I have had a lot of fun reading all of your personal stories and anecdotes from the three towns.

I myself still currently live here! I’m in Saltcoats working as a digital artist for video games.
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A warm welcome to you, Rebecca. Good to get your feed-back. Hope to hear more from you. :hi:

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Hi Michael I was at St Peter's school with you and remember you were the shortest but most agile goalkeeper ever, great days. All the best. Cbeers.
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My name is Alistair Macdonald. I live in Helensburgh but travel frequently via Ardrossan to Arran.I am a member of a group researching donors of paintings to Glasgow. I am particularly interested in the Kilmeny Hotel as a painting discovered there by Evelyn Waugh in 1942 is now in the possession of Glasgow Museums. It was donated in 1946 by ICI. I am trying to establish how the painting Adam's First Sight of Eve came to be in the Kilmeny Hotel. I would also be interested to know of ICI's connection to the hotel. Did they take it over at one point?
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Welcome Alistair,
There is mention in the press of the ICI vacating the Kilmeny at the end of 1949 and moving to Glenfoot. More details on page four of the following topic. Good luck with your research. :)

See: Kilmeny Hotel
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Hi I'm Helen Shaw, I was born in Kilwinning, but we lived just outside of Saltcoats before emigrating to Queensland, Australia in December 1964. Still have a few family members (Cousins) living in the Threetown area and throughout Ayrshire.
Been working on the Family Tree for quite a few years and always attempting to break down the brickwalls of missing details.
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Helen Shaw wrote: Thu Mar 17, 2022 2:56 pm Hi I'm Helen Shaw, I was born in Kilwinning, but we lived just outside of Saltcoats before emigrating to Queensland, Australia in December 1964. Still have a few family members (Cousins) living in the Threetown area and throughout Ayrshire.
Been working on the Family Tree for quite a few years and always attempting to break down the brickwalls of missing details.
A warm welcome to the three towners Helen - there’s a lot of expertise on here with family trees so ask away…

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Thank you for this wonderful site! The old burial place of the Weir family is especially fascinating to me. I am still trying to work out whether my ancestors the Meikles were blood relatives of the Weirs or just very close friends. The last laird of Kirkhall, Hugh Weir (died April 26, 1898), was known in my family as "Uncle Weir." My great-great-grandmother, born Mary Porter Meikle, was an heir to the estate of Hugh Weir's sister, Helen Ferrie Weir Young, who died at Kirkhall on May 23, 1902. There is a tradition in my family that some of the furnishings from Kirkhall thus made their way here to America. I am sorry the old house is no longer standing. Thank you for all you are doing to share the history of this beautiful part of the world. I look forward to many happy hours learning more.
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A warm welcome Cintra - looking forward to reading your posts.

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Cintra,

The following item has previously been posted. The church referred to is St. Cuthbert's, Saltcoats: -

"The niece of Laird Weir of Kirkhall presented the bowl to the church. Added to the bowl was a new silver rim with the following inscription -

Baptismal bowl used at Ardrossan Parish Church, Stanley, near Kirkhall. Long lost and restored by Miss Meikle, niece of Laird Weir of Kirkhall. May 23rd 1903"
Nothing is ever really lost to us as long as we remember it.
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Hi Cintra,
This is probably the link to the Meikle family:
According to his death certificate, Hugh's mother was Mary Weir, previously Meikle, maiden surname Porter

This might interest you:
Ardrossan and Saltcoats Herald, Friday 29th April 1898

In Memoriam
Hugh Ferrie Weir of Kirkhall


The death of Mr Hugh Ferrie Weir of Kirkhall, on Tuesday afternoon, will take not a few of the community by surprise, and will be learned with regret not only by the natives at home and abroad, but by a number of correspondents, indebted to him for special information on folk lore, local antiquities, and old family history, in all of which subjects he was a specialist.
Although confined to the house for some weeks, it is only within these last two or three weeks his case became serious, and towards the end of his days he suffered not a little pain, borne with manly resignation.
Laird Weir – the designation by which he was familiarly known – was perhaps the most striking individuality in the district. It is doubtful if the community generally knew to the full extent his special claims to be regarded as such. He was the last male representative of the Weir family, who have occupied Kirkhall – a small estate about a mile north-east from Ardrossan, on the right bank of Stanley Burn – from 1719. Great-grandfather, grandfather, and father were in possession of it as owners from 1748 previous to the succession on 1838 of Hugh, now deceased. Within the grounds is the burial place of the family. It is a small enclosure formed by a thorn hedge and a stone wall, and sheltered by an encompassing row of ash and elm trees. There is a monument erected, composed of two Tuscan columns, surmounted by a pediment, and the inscription, which is cut in a small panel of black marble, is as follows:--

This burial place was erected by Hugh Weir of Kirkhall.—
DOROTHY HUNTER, his wife, died Sept. 26th, 1787, aged 67 years.--
HUGH WEIR died Jan. 9th, 1800, aged 72 years.—
HELEN FERRIE, wife of Robert Weir, died April 20th, 1814, aged 56 years.—
ROBERT WEIR died 31st July 1838, in the 81st year of his age

From the above it will be seen that the Weirs were long lived – a fact to which the Laird frequently referred when congratulating himself on his own long age; on his ability to undertake duties, and walk with ease to Ardrossan and back to Kirkhall without great inconvenience.
As an heritor of the parish, at one time he took an active interest in the fabric of the church and succeeded, if we mistake not, in preventing the old building from being condemned many years ago. In 1852-53 he was the most active leader in the opposition to the formation of Saltcoats into a burgh; and in recognition of his services, on 7th April 1854, he was presented with a handsome silver salver, beautifully chased, which bore the following inscription:--

Presented to Hugh Ferrie Weir Esq. of Kirkhall, by a number of
proprietors and others in Saltcoats and vicinity, as a token of
respect for his co-operation in resisting and defeating the Burgh
Act sought to be imposed on the town in 1852-3.—Saltcoats
7th April, 1854.

The Raise Street weavers were then an important body; and although the movement was in the right direction, there was an excuse for the opposition in that the Commission Board would have been appointed by a limited number of the inhabitants, not more than two-tenths being in possession of the franchise. For a time he was chairman of the Parochial Board; and took a deep interest in parochial matters. He was never married; and besides farming his small estate was an accomplished land surveyor, and showed great mechanical skill as an amateur turner in wood.
But it is as local historian, for his love of antiquities, his study of place names, his acquaintance with family genealogies, and his unique collection of old editions, and books, tracts, and sermons having a special relation to Ayrshire, he will be longest remembered. He inherited his tastes from his father – a careful and diligent annotator – who left copious notes of everything likely to interest in connection with the parish and neighbourhood. In the preface to the History of Ardrossan due acknowledgement is made of the value of Mr Weir's researches, and of the MSS, placed at the writer's disposal. The file of the Herald is also rich in local historical contributions from his pen. It was a great pleasure to him, and he never grudged the trouble to copy from old records, if thereby he could throw light upon the past for the benefit of the present generation. One of his latest papers was on the old stone in the graveyard on the hill, on which at one time could be traced the full-length figure of a man in baso-relievo in a recumbent position, with shields and quarterings on legs and arms; and we recall his papers on "The Eglinton Family"; on the "Walled Parks in the neighbourhood of Ardrossan, and the Wild Cattle"; Biographical Sketches of old Parish Ministers; and, not to mention others – "Ardrossan: its Early Barons, Castle, etc." Mr Weir's special studies brought him into contact with not a few like-minded; and of these correspondents there was no one he held in greater esteem than the late Sir William Fraser, of whose death it was deemed wise not to inform him. For years he was a familiar figure at book sales; and, although a careful man otherwise, he did not grudge the cost of a more perfect edition of an old book he already had; or a publication that would add to the value of his library of Ayrshire books. It is no commonplace to say that "we ne'er shall look upon his like again". He was the custodier of all that relates to the past of the district – the newspaper file has now taken his place; but our indebtedness to him can be measured by what we owe the father and son when there was no press to make note of passing occurrences, or parishioners with the taste for, or the patience to pursue, historical research in parish annals. He will be missed, for he filled a place all his own.
Mr Weir is survived by his sister, the widow of the late Mr Young of Milngarhome, Irvine; who has resided with him for sometime, and nursed him through his last illness. His remains will be interred to-day within the family enclosure, where rest his forebears. He was in his 83rd year.

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